Civic Associations Petition for Public Vote on Roslyn Country Club

North Hempstead residents to vote on $7.5 million in borrowing in November.

Residents from several civic associations are petitioning for a public vote on a proposed takeover of the Roslyn Country Club by the .

Representatives from the civic associations of Lakeville Estates, New Hyde Park, Carle Place and Albertson collected over 4,000 signatures over the course of 17 days and submitted them to the town clerk last week asking for a public vote on the proposed borrowing of $7.5 million to acquire and renovate the Roslyn Country Club property.

Before the resolution was , “we had constantly asked Jon Kaiman and the town board to put Roslyn Country Club to a vote to the people,” Albertson Civic Association President Eddie Scott said Monday during a visit to the club. “They refused.”

After months of negotiation with the owner, North Hempstead is looking to  through its environmental legacy fund and renovate the pool and surrounding facilities, whose pool is in dire need of repair as the cement liner is cracked and flaking and numerous plants and 6-ft. tall weeds have invaded and taken root.

The town board voted 5-2 in favor with Dina DeGiorgio and Angelo Ferrara, R-New Hyde Park, voting against.

The town’s reported plan is to sell 1,000 memberships to the club at approximately $1,0000 a piece in order to pay for the project. However, if there is a shortfall in membership or cost overruns in the project, taxpayers could be liable for the difference. Also, while every taxpayer in the town would have an equal share in the $7.5 million bond, only those who pay the separate membership fees to the club, pool and tennis courts would be able to utilize the respective facilities.

“I have nothing against the Roslyn Country Club and people have a right to have their tennis court and pool but I certainly can’t afford an additional $1,000 in this economy,” Anthony Bulzonmi of the Westbury-Carle Place Civic Association said. “The majority of the residents and my neighbors certainly wouldn’t be coming out here to use this.”

Bulzonmi, a construction manager, was also skeptical about the $7.5 million being the final cost of the project.

“Construction being as it is, there’s always cost overruns,” he said. “What that could be, there’s environmental questions that come into play especially when you talk about chlorine and containers that may be underground so the cost overruns could be quite large.”

“It hasn’t been successful, from what I understand, at $700 a year in membership. What makes you think it’s going to be successful for $1,000 to $1,125? It’s not going to work; the membership that’s required to sustain itself is not going to work,” Scott said, noting that signatures are still coming into his house despite a passed deadline. “Why should somebody in New Hyde Park pay $1,000 to $1,125 to come and use this pool? We want the right to vote.”

Other communities such as Williston Park, , New Hyde Park and East Hills already have their own pool. A family pass to the Williston Park pool, which Scott utilizes, reportedly costs $375.

Scott says he wants the people in the area have their own pool via a special taxing district rather than any potential shortfall be borne by all residents across North Hempstead. There are a total of 668 homes in Roslyn Country Club area which Scott says could be part of the new district.

“East Hills pays for their own pool, New Hyde Park pays for their own pool. I would like to see the people of Roslyn Country Club pay for their own pool. Why should the burden be put on everyone across North Hempstead for a select few that want it?”

While a special election would cost hundreds of thousands of dollars for the town, Scott says that can be avoided by placing the measure on the November ballot. Petitions are required to have 3,343 valid names, or 5 percent of the number of residents in the town who voted in the last gubernatorial election.

“So you want to take away their rights to their property, what they’re entitled to, then you want to take their  right away to vote?” Scott said. “I have a very big problem with this and I think a lot of us have .”

In a statement released Tuesday,  said that he anticipated that the town would certify the petitions “shortly and that we will then move to put the matter to a referendum. The goal will be to set the date for the same day as the general election in November to avoid additional costs.”

Editor's Note: This article has been updated to reflect that the town seeks to purchase a piece of the property through the town's environmental legacy fund, not through eminent domain. 

Sol Nolan July 25, 2012 at 07:52 PM
Incredible how NT will never, EVER, let you know where he gets his statistics from. He loves to claim that Manorhaven memberships are all time low when I frequent there and it is OVERcrowded. More so than any previous year
Craig Baines July 25, 2012 at 07:55 PM
Vote Obama, Vote for land preservation and open space in November. The local Republicans just want another subdivision and more density thats comes along with it. We all know Gelb has been eyeing this tract for a long time as another project he can profit from, now wonder he was a big Scott supporter in the last town election. Do not be fooled by these Republicans billing this out as a country club for the elite, it is all about contributors and payback to developer buddies.
Milton Weiman July 25, 2012 at 09:04 PM
Stephen why would spelling Mosque wrong make someone a Race - baiting bigot Mr. Nash has a very good point. sell the Property. your post should come down and a Mosque,Temple,or church should go up.
Jason July 25, 2012 at 09:16 PM
Stephen you and Jared should take out stock in Kleenex becouse your going to need it in Nov :)
Jason July 25, 2012 at 09:21 PM
Sol have not seen you around the office much, feeling all right?
Sol Nolan July 25, 2012 at 10:08 PM
I'm ok, you? Had treatment for a herniated disk...
Port North Resident July 25, 2012 at 11:20 PM
Jared, as a Port Washington resident I would like to remind you the outcome of our council race we in Port didn't want this and Dina Defiorgio won the election here, and for dosclosure i am not in favor as the project is currently proposed, i would be in favor of the residents forming a special park district like the residents of Great Neck have. Let me ask you, this petition was for a referendum nothing more, if you are so confident in the public's support of the project, what is the harm in letting the people weigh in?
Port North Resident July 25, 2012 at 11:23 PM
I find this very offensive Scott is a 9/11 responder and former NYPD, I have met him several times and I think you need to check your facts before slinging the mud!!
Donna July 26, 2012 at 12:42 AM
I feel like I am reading a teen Facebook page here. People distorting facts and when anyone disagrees with their view they resort to making personal attacks. Grow up people. It is great to take a stand on issues but very "ignorant and childish" to attack others who have different views. Stick with valid points here I know where I stand on this issue but wouldn't bother to state it here just to be attacked by self righteous bullies. No wonder kids today are turning out the same way! "children learn what they live "
Terry July 26, 2012 at 12:47 AM
If the residents of the Roslyn CC area would like an area pool, let them pay for it as a special district. Don't tax the entire town, by in effect, subsidizing 600 or so Roslyn CC houses that would directly benefit. The whole thing smells and I believe NH Supervisor Jon Kaiman is in bed with this politically connected caterer. Vote NO in November.
Craig Baines July 26, 2012 at 02:27 AM
So I guess Dina Esq. (wow i'm impressed with the esq) will want her port wash park and caus celeb to be a special district too? Cant have it both ways because she will be called on it at the meeting on the 31st. Maybe Obama should use esq too I mean he has to be at least as important as she is?
Chris O July 26, 2012 at 02:32 AM
Sign this petition or we'll put you in cement shoes! Are the guys in this photo kidding me??? I too can publish a photo of myself with a checkbook in hand ready to pay for membership at the new pool facility. Believe me there is great demand for a park system like this one. Why single out this park? Geez the TONH has been improving parks for years. Are you people that bored and have nothing to do but pollute some poor grandma and grandpa with lies!! Demographics are changing. Young families want/need a place to go. Get over it already. This pool is happening!
Todd July 26, 2012 at 02:36 AM
WoW who is this guy Stephen? must have a lot to lose by this. Thank you to the civics and Mr. Scott one more thanks to Tom Dwyer for making Eddy Scott work so hard to get this done.
Craig Baines July 26, 2012 at 02:38 AM
Hey Terry "in effect" didn't the residents of the RCC subsidize the 12 million spent at the Denton avenue pool and the 36 million on the new community center in New Cassel or what about the Port Washington pool at another 11 million. This is one town, not six towns posing and six council districts. Maybe they should become special districts so the RCC doesnt have to fund them all?
Nassau Taxpayer July 26, 2012 at 02:44 AM
Wow. Great idea, Craig. We'll draft up a referendum and send ToNH "management" packing.
Todd July 26, 2012 at 02:44 AM
Craig Baines the Dems have Dejana (crook) and Terry is no better.could wright for hours about them and there back door deals.
Rondo Bean July 26, 2012 at 02:46 AM
I love many of the "extras" our town has... and the events and services we offer... even if not all of them are for everyone. BUT this seems excessive. Very excessive. I don't see a problem with putting it up for a vote.
Todd July 26, 2012 at 03:03 AM
Chris Need a pool get a permit, then go get a shovel. this is not going to Happen.
N H pays Tax July 26, 2012 at 03:03 AM
Dwyer met with the club owner in Vegas , he admitted it on the record but when the owner wanted to go into detail Dwyer stopped him, saying manny stop you know what goes on in Vegas stays in Vegas? so someone should ask Dwyer what he gets if the deal goes thru
2 much taxed July 26, 2012 at 03:11 AM
your Tomy is in the pocket of the club owner
2 much taxed July 26, 2012 at 03:17 AM
get your facts straight. , this land can vever be subdivided. present owner bought it thinking he can subdivide ,now that he knows it can not be done he is paying off Dwyer to buy it from him at the expense of all of us, why do you think Dwyer is pushing Kaiman to do this so much ? Kaiman will do this to payback a loyal cronie
2 much taxed July 26, 2012 at 03:19 AM
you got it right
2 much taxed July 26, 2012 at 03:23 AM
thanks to whoever is getting this done it's about time people of the Town will have a say ,and not just some petty inept politician and his dog and cronie show.
2 much taxed July 26, 2012 at 03:25 AM
hey Jared is Kaiman paying you for some no show job?
2 much taxed July 26, 2012 at 03:30 AM
Kaiman is deep in pocket of Dejana , Kaiman takes orders from Jerrard Terry,the head crook
Milton Weiman July 26, 2012 at 03:24 PM
Chris O Eddy scott is a Spanish American his wife is Jewish. Both came to my house to have me sign the petition(RCC Resident) Just to clear up your cement shoe bigotry. Talking about "CEMENT" Guess where it is not going!
Chris O July 26, 2012 at 06:47 PM
All I ask is to tell the truth. Stop spreading lies. This park benefits us all and the tax burden, if any may be a $1. I don't believe the people who signed this petition have the facts. I know they don't. I know someone that did and was told LIES! There is demand for a park such as this maybe not by you but for sure from the new families that move into the TONH. Seriously you people need to get a life. The cement I was referring to because the other gentleman was a construction manager! Not sure what you were thinking!
Craig Baines July 27, 2012 at 01:20 AM
Hey made up person "Milton" who said anything about his wife?? She isn't in the picture.
Stephen July 27, 2012 at 08:37 PM
In the end residents and press will read these posts. They'll have more time to reflect than a minute being accosted on a LIRR platform or at their door by a stranger. More information, too. They’ll look for substance--and in the critics’ corner find very little. Claims like "Cost to be immense" or "10 employees" aren’t substance. They’ll can find detail on the Town website. Or dial 311 and ask. Or…they can call Ed Scott (knowing he's seeking a Board seat) to ask why the Roslyn park is incapable of generating the same membership as other Town facilities (but he doesn't know; he's only guessing). They can email Marianna Wohlgemuth (knowing she’s seeking another quasi-governmental board seat). Ask her to justify her $2200 expense estimate (but she doesn't know; as she says, she just repeated a number “someone” incorrectly gave her about a 50+ acre facility in East Hill). Or write Lee Kalinsky (cutting a deal for Petrus) how he knows the costs; or ask Lloyd why debt service would be nearly $1million a year (he writes that “another speaker” said so). And so it goes. No substance.Ultimately, seems that there’s a LOT more substance to the critics’ personal interest and ambition than there is to their criticisms. If support for destroying this park plan is so strong, get a recognized expert on park construction, management or operations, collect funds to consult for a few hours and bring her to the next meeting. We are all ears.
Eyes r open July 28, 2012 at 02:49 AM
Everybody in New Hyde Park Park District remember these zealous advocates for another district when the time comes to rehab your pool. Because when that gigantic bill comes, you'll all be screaming that the district should be dissolved and that the rest of the town should share the debt. That day's coming, and it's coming soon. Remember this warning, and remember these hypocrites when the rest of the town turns it's back on you.


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