Patch Question: the Middle Seat on the LIRR

Tell us where you find space on the Long Island Rail Road.

For thousands of weary commuters on the Long Island Rail Road, standing may be preferable to sitting if a number of reports published by the railroad are any indication.

Not content to brave the dreaded middle seat, commuters are allegedly more willing to stand the length of their commute rather than be squeezed into a spot between a pair of other commuters.

While the LIRR is encouraging the use of all seating according to a Newsday report, other reasons for standing may include trip distance and also if other passengers have taken up the space with their bags or even their feet.

In today’s Patch question, we want to know how your commute is, if you choose to site or stand and the reasons behind it, even if it is the dread of the middle seat. Tell us in the comments.

George May 08, 2012 at 01:26 PM
I have been commuting for the past 23 years. The problem with the middle seat is only on the new model of electric trains. Even though the RR says the seats are not smaller than the previous models, they really are and that is why people are reluctant to sit in them. Check this out when you get on one of the older electric trains, people sit in the middle seat all the time. The LIRR has a lot of nerve making it seam like it's a passenger issue, not their poor design issue. But really within the last 10 years we have had the Diesel- Electric fiasco, the end seat arm fiasco, the "Gap" fiasco, many signal fiasco's, all things the RR should have been aware of before allowing the trains into production. Now they are trying to say the passenger is the problem? Poor planning is the problem, and don't expect any changes soon.
john sullivan May 08, 2012 at 01:31 PM
i don't likr the middle seat; that being said i believe that any body who takes up 2 seats should be charged for 2 seats. if you want to open room on the LIRR just implement that policy immediately and the train will have plenty more open seats for people to sit in at all times
Derp May 08, 2012 at 01:48 PM
The problem is fat middle-aged and old men. People have gotten too large. They are so fat and out of shape that they have to hold onto the seat on front of them as they ease their fat bodies into the seats. Often this is accompanied by a sigh or some groan (because they are fat). I am an a 29-year-old man. I have a normal body type (5'10", 150 lbs.). If people weren't so fat, three people could sit side-by-side with no physical contact. Our commutes would all be pleasant.
John Pine May 09, 2012 at 07:56 AM
The problem is the newer electric trains have smaller seats. The middle seat is quite uncomfortable and thus I agree why most prefer to stand when that's all that's available. The seats on the newer trains are smaller, combine that with the fact many riders aren't exactly slim, so basically not everyone can fit into every seat. On crowded trains I actually try to seek out the single seats located in the cab areas of the cars, since I dont like being squished by fat guys who always seem to like to sit next to me, if given the chance. Perhaps the solution to the problem is force the fat people to stand, then maybe everyone could get a seat.
Neil Siri May 09, 2012 at 05:40 PM
people Have no brains or consideration for other people. If your going to be on the train for a while sit by the window so other people don't have to jump over you or wake your ass up. And everybody's jocking back and fourth. And take your garbage with you when you get off. There's a lot of people that ride the trains that have no common sense . Period Or we wouldn't be having this conversation .


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